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• 2025-11-22看空原文
  The Neocloud Sector Tierlist. Post Q3 earnings + Market Sector Drop: [S] Tier: $NBIS [A] Tier: $CIFR, $WULF, $IREN [B] Tier: $GLXY, $CORZ [C] Tier: $APLD, $CLSK [D] Tier: $WLAC, $DGDX, $WYFI [F] Tier, $CRWV*, $SLNH [U] Tier: $GRRR, $MARA, $DGDX, $CLSK, $BITF, $HIVE, $RIOT ** Ranked in order from left to right. * : Short-term pricing drops created compelling entries (e.g., $CRWV), but med-term (12m) attractiveness remains limited. **: Uncertain, decided not to rate them (but put them in tierlist photo as F). Some pure miners haven't fully pivot into HPC yet + too much contract uncertainty. Lot of people asked about updates post earnings, these are just personal thoughts based on weighted assessments of: a. Contract visibility and revenue certainty b. Resilience to macro tightening and credit conditions c. Balance sheet strength and margin profile d. HPC buildout risk (capacity execution and orchestration) e. Revenue growth trajectory (1–2 year horizon) f. Current market capitalization relative to revenue ramp and infrastructure value The whole Neocloud sector is compelling but some have clearly higher asymmetrical return over others as of Q3.
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• 2025-11-22中性原文
  If you spent just 30 seconds reading the post, you would see I didn't rate $BITF. With $CRWV there's short term upside because sell-off was way too much to the $60s. But medium-long term they have way too much debt interest. While $NBIS and $IREN funds through convertibles or little interest cutting into margins every quarter, Coreweave pays over $1.2B+ in annual debt expense interest. OpenAI also makes up 1/3th of their total backlog, so while they have some defensible hyperscalers ( $META, $MSFT) + $NVDA backstop, building out for OpenAI like $ORCL, presents considerable risk given their lack of revenue + Gemini $GOOGL competition. So they are F tier despite being a highly rated full-stack offering due to absurd debt interest cutting into margins + large concentration of backlog from OpenAI (contract uncertainty) that don't affect diversified full-stack offerings like $NBIS.
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• 2025-11-22中性原文
  So I think you're replying to points I never made. Just to clarify: I didn't rate $BITF. If you read my post, it fell into the unrated category, so I'm not debating where it goes in comparison with $WYFI or $SLNH. As for $SLNH, we're not disagreeing on anything I put it as F tier as well since it's a hype stock that requires excessive debt/dilution on their "2.8GW capacity" buildout plans. You said for $NBIS "how attached it is to Bitcoin Mining and if they own their power" - I'll take that as a mispeak and that you were using Bitcoin mining in reference with $CLSK, and that you were referencing capacity for $NBIS +. $NBIS achieved near long-term parity with $IREN from the capacity side, which is associated as the highest GW capacity player in the industry. So I'd argue that part is incorrect. So as for $SMCI being a reliable/trustworthy partner argument, I sort of disagree, but you did change my mind regarding $DGXX having lower operational and technical execution risk. That aside, that part wouldn't really change rankings, eg. putting it the same as $APLD which has 2 hyperscaler contracts (if you include $CRWV) but downside from junk bonds (revenue visibility) If you wanted to put it on par with $CLSK just due to return potential from MC size, I'd give you that.
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• 2025-11-17看多
  Nebius [ $NBIS ] 价格为 $86.69，是目前剩下的最纯粹 Neocloud 和 AI 基础设施非对称机会。 这是未受 $CIFR | $WULF 和托管服务提供商影响、收入最高的 Neocloud，并且没有： - $IREN、$ORCL 因全栈执行而面临的困扰性不确定性。 - $CRWV、$APLD 以及其他公司面临的高息债务。 - $CLSK、$BITF、$WYFI、$SLNH 以及其他公司所缺乏的、与超大规模云厂商合同相关的大规模收入确定性问题。 在 AI 板块被恐惧笼罩、市场普遍下跌之后： Nebius 正在推进：明年 ARR 中值 $8B、现金 $4.7B+、企业客户多元化（来自 $META、$MSFT、$ACN、$SHOP、政府）、高速增长的投资组合公司，以及经验证的全栈高利润率业务。 在需求极度旺盛、执行不确定性（利润率），以及与当前困扰市场的 OpenAI 合同依赖和信贷收紧问题相隔离的情况下： 就非对称上涨空间而言，没有任何东西能接近 Nebius。 你只是在等待公司执行兑现。
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• 2025-11-12中性原文
  It's a broader sell-off on growth/higher beta. $PYPL is a value investing type stock. eg: 1 Month: $CRCL -36.04% $ALAB -21.4% $HIMS -28.34% $RKLB -23.07% $SMCI -30.77% $SG -27.9% $ETH -19.03% $BTC -11.86% _ Neoclouds/Miners 1 Week: $CIFR -27.64% $IREN -26.7% $BITF -22.9% $CLSK -20.89% $NBIS -20.23% $WULF -15.09% It's not just a single stock. This was after Powell's comments about Dec rate cut + extended gov shutdown.
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• 2025-10-31中性原文
  Markets are starting to price in: A divergence between AWS-style full-stack Neoclouds like $NBIS and miners such as $CIFR, $BITF, $CLSK, and others. This is the reason I sold off $IREN $WULF and others, and consolidated into Nebius. Why? 💹 Margins > ⚡️Capacity. Just today: The CTO of Nebius stated: “Almost no Neocloud in the market is actually a cloud. As in a bunch of baremetal with a ton of third-party software slapped on top.” Provocative? Absolutely not — if you take the term “cloud” seriously, not just as slapping on a bunch of hardware boxes. Danila explained how baremetal operators will soon discover the challenges Nebius has already solved at scale. And that’s exactly why I stated $NBIS has the highest asymmetrical upside, since miners may struggle with margins at scale. We’ve also seen a Forbes article by Nebius Co-Founder Roman Chernin, summarize how the AI economy requires a new, full-stack, AI-native infrastructure, not the stitched-together systems: “You can buy racks from one supplier, cable them together... but in the long term, economics, flexibility and speed depend on you controlling your own stack.” “If you control the stack, you control the product, the performance, and the economics.” _ This doesn’t mean there’s no room for other HPC companies like $WYFI, $APLD, $WULF, and others to grow, and the Neocloud segment is just beginning its run-up (especially when we look at $META or $AMZN earnings). However, during the speculation phase, we’ve already priced in capacity buildout with miners - most are already up 50–200%+. But when it comes to execution, those who control the full stack will win on margins. We’ve seen $CRWV figure that out firsthand, spending billions on software acquisitions and still maintaining lower utilization than $NBIS (as per the whitepaper). We’ve also seen how an $800B hyperscaler (Oracle) failed to build out its stack, running at 14% gross margins. If Oracle couldn’t fully integrate its software, and CoreWeave is still spending years trying to do so, how will small miners pivot? Arguments from “Type-1 only” operators will find out the hard way what margin compression at scale looks like. As the Forbes article concludes: “At the end of the day, if you’re just cabling the boxes or building service on top of infrastructure you don’t control, you’re limited in the game of scale and efficiency.” $NBIS already has that full stack today.
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• 2025-10-27看多
  Neocloud 论点经受住了时间考验。 1 个月后： $CRWV 120.34 → 135.64 (+12.7%) $NBIS 107.70 → 126.49 (+17.5%) $WULF 10.63 → 13.69 (+28.8%) $IREN 41.68 → 64.69 (+55.2%) $CIFR 11.47 → 20.70 (+80.4%) $BITF 2.54 → 4.51 (+77.6%) $WYFI 22.83 → 36.52 (+59.9%) $GRRR 19.90 → 16.95 (−14.8%) $SLNH 2.75 → 2.81 (+2.2%) $RIOT 17.69 → 23.01 (+30.1%) $MARA 16.13 → 19.61 (+21.6%) $CLSK 12.96 → 20.21 (+56.0%) $HUT 33.16 → 49.95 (+50.6%) 这只是史上最大规模 AI 数据中心建设潮的开端，finx 上的每个人现在仍然处于早期。 我整体上非常看好 Neocloud 板块，但个人更集中配置 $NBIS，因为它具备最高的不对称回报潜力。
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• 2025-09-27看多
  NeoCloud 论点：超大规模云厂商资本开支漏斗 为什么我把 $1.5M+ 投入 Neoclouds，以及为什么这可能带来 200-300%+ 的回报。 🔹 分类 Mag7 合同：$CRWV, $NBIS ✅, $WULF, $CIFR ✅ 拥有算力：$IREN ✅, $BITF 投机型：$WYFI, $GRRR ✅, $SLNH 转向 HPC 的矿企：$RIOT, $MARA, $CLSK, $HUT 论点： Mag7 的 AI 算力紧张，这是 $NVDA 有意造成的。 通常流经 AWS、MSFT Azure、Google Cloud 用于传统计算的数万亿资本开支，现在会在它们无法承接来自 Anthropic、OpenAI、Gemini 等的新 AI 负载时，流入 NeoClouds。 这是十年一遇的机会，类似于 GPU 军备竞赛让 $NVDA 成为 $4T 公司；这次赌的是未来 5-10 年谁来为 AWS/Azure/等提供基础设施动力。 NBIS（来自 MSFT 的 17B）、CIFR / WULF（来自 GOOGL 的 3B）、CRWV（由 NVDA 提供支持）都在以数百个百分点扩张（NBIS 从季度收入 150M 增长到可能 1.5B+），毛利率达 60-80%。 这种收入增长在历史上几乎闻所未闻。主要原因是最富有的超大规模云厂商正在把资本开支导入小公司。 NVDA / TSM（2022->）：为超大规模云厂商提供 GPU CRDO / ALAB（2024 ->）：赢得超大规模云厂商订单 -> 抛物线式增长。 NBIS/CIFR/IREN/等（2025 - ）AWS/Azure/等 -> 来自 AI 算力的抛物线式增长 这就是你获得数百 % 回报的方式，而不是在 Paypal 上做价值投资。顺势搭乘下一代公司。 所以空头论点通常围绕 - 执行风险（以前更具投机性，现在像 NBIS 这样的公司已有 4B+ 可用于执行） 人们总能担心执行问题，但 Microsoft 或 Google 不会在没有自己尽调的情况下签下如此大规模的 5-10 年合同。 - 高利率（主要说的就是你 CRWV），这就是为什么 NBIS、CIFR 和其他公司有潜在惊人回报。 $NBIS 获得了 4B+ 融资，价格在每股 $138+（而现在是 $107）。$CIFR 获得融资，价格在每股 $16+，而现在是 $11。高于当前股价的融资是看涨信号。 - GPU 折旧（合理担忧，但它几乎像石油，即使旧型号也保值，并仍能带来权益价值）。 - 估值（我仍认为我们才刚开始。如果 NBIS 明年收入扩张到 6B、毛利率 75%，26B 市值极其小。） - NVDA 可能推出自己的 GPU-as-a-service 并直接竞争。目前这些 Neoclouds 是 NVDA 防止算力集中到 Azure/AWS/等的答案。 - 超大规模云厂商自研芯片，如 TPU、Trainium。但可能还要很多年，因为他们仍在苦求 NVDA 算力，并签下了 5Y-10Y 合同。 无论如何，这些像 Nebius 这样的 neoclouds 相对于远期收入/毛利率来说真的被低估了。 我们仍然非常早期。确保像搭乘 Trump 当选时的 Crypto/TSLA，或 OpenAI 发布时的 NVDA 一样，搭上 Neocloud 浪潮。 当然，这高度投机，我不会 YOLO 满仓买 calls，但从风险回报看，这些 5-20B 的小型 neoclouds 为 Google/MSFT/等、也就是 Mag7 的现金奶牛，提供 AI 工作负载动力，是值得的。（交易时间周期：8m - 1 year。） 这是 2025-2026 年最好的单一非对称 AI 基础设施交易。
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